The Herald screams:
Maori supporters threatened – claim
I don't believe this. This is baseless innuendo straight from Mrs Smear herself, Tariana Turia. She is playing a filthy game. It is an utter disgrace. The Maori Party should be ashamed. Even if there is some residual truth to this accusation, and I stress it is an accusation, the appropriate measure is not to contact the New Zealand Herald. The appropriate response is to contact the Mana Party and determine whether the threats are in any way related to/emanating from or sanctioned by the Mana Party. The threats, if threats even exist, probably come from a lone lunatic. The best response then is to contact the Police or brush it off. You do not go straight to the media. What good does that serve? Other than attacking the credibility of the Mana Party. This is a persistent attempt to destroy the Mana Party. The only way the Maori Party can do that is with the help of the National Party smear machine and the complicit mainstream media. Shame on you, Tariana. Shame on you. Your game is dirty and disgusting.
kia ora Morgan
ReplyDeleteI can't imagine Tariana went to the Herald and I hope I'm right. I was more concerned with the terrible statements from both sharples and turia
"We are a Maori party, they are not a Maori party," Dr Sharples said. "They seem to represent the unions and various other groups ... we're not left, we're not right. we're Maori."
and this
"Yesterday, Mrs Turia said Mr Harawira would be an odd choice to represent the interests of the left. "The Greens do that extremely well in Parliament right now, and I can't see how someone who has never represented those interests ever in his lifetime is now going to pick up on those interests and represent them here.""
So Mana is left and Hone's not left.
Dirty indeed
Kia ora Marty
ReplyDeleteI agree. Those were dirty and actually quite illogical statements. The Maori Party is in full attack mode. I guess they sense the very real threat that Hone represents. I wonder what other lines of attack they will use.
They seem to be completely lost, no direction what so ever. Will be very embarrassing when they come last. They have lost their status as 'the maori party' and are lacking identity.
ReplyDeleteI sense their political advisor is of the same caliber as Goff's. A lot of dead wood in Parliament. One strategic error the maori party made was not to set up a rangatahi branch. Elsewhere there is: young labour, young nats, act (with that silly 'my argument is so powerful I don't have to tell you what it is boy)and the young greens.
The Mana Party should set up a rangatahi section very soon. As has been pointed out, a lot of Ngapuhi are young, and lots are urban. Many are in west auckland and Manakau in the south. Pita must be worried that the maori party is trying to go head to head with a force that may take his seat from him.
Post by election question is: is Shane Jones up to taking on Sharples, and if not.. who else might be.
Marty, Turia never said that Hone was not left, she said he is an odd choice to represent the interests of the left. And she's right. Hone is only interested in representing some of the interests of the Maori left.
ReplyDeleteTariana has lost all credibility. The respect I once had for her is diminishing, especially now she is resorting to dirty tactics. This will see more Maori defections- she is treading on thin ice.
ReplyDeleteKia ora Morgan.
ReplyDeleteI live in Waitakere and people around here are switching off the Maori Party due to Tariana's smear campaign. I couldn't agree more with what you have written. But I wanted to ask people out there, my neighbour mentioned that seeing Tariana on television was the first time in ages. I had to agree and it seems a bit rich that the first time we see her on televison is when she is trying to play politics that I think are dirty.
These dirty tactics are borne from fear. They know they don;t stand a chance against Hone and the Mana Party so they are resorting to mud slinging and incorrect information. They fear the fact that the Mana Party can be seen as the perfect incorporation of Maori AND non-Maori by speaking on issues that affect everyone that is struggling including poor and working class, something the Maori Party has not done, and with comments like, "We are not left, we are not right.. We are Maori", it doesn't look like they will do anytime soon either.
ReplyDeleteCan you cite your source(s) to back up your claim that Turia did indeed go to the Herald instead of say, the Herald acting on a tip or perhaps having a reporter on hand?
ReplyDeleteHow do you know that she didn't or hasn't contact the Mana Party?
Kia ora, I support the ideals of hone and if he was in my electorate i would vote. But i cant understand why people think Tariana is lying or trying to smear. Titewhai heckling or threatening Maori Party ambitions? hello...the odds are on tariana telling the truth...and she should raise the issue if she felt threatened. do you think titewhai just sat there and twiddled her thumbs, course not. Did someone threaten maori party members, highly likely, John Key gets them all the time. We need to fight for Hones policies and give him the best chance. You cant claim to be pro maori when your anti maori party...
ReplyDeleteKei te kaapoo haere tatou? Ko tatou te Maori e tu ana hei hoariri ki a tatou ano? He tangata humarie a Tariana raua ko Pita - na toku whanaunga a Hone, nana ke i whakaiti tuatahi mai i te tokorua nei ko Tariana raua ko Pita. He aha whakawhiu ai e tatou ano te Maori i te korero kino ki te tokorua nei kua roa e whakapau kaha ana mo ngai tatou te iwi Maori? Kua roa te rahinga o te ao Pakeha i te kore paku aro ki a tatou te Maori - kua roa! No te whakakotahi mai o nga rangatira Maori (mai i a Tariana tae noa ki a Hone) kua timata te ao whanui ki te whakarongo ki te mangai o te Maori. Inaianei, titiro ki a tatou ano te Maori e whakaparahako ana ki a tatou ano. Kia tupato tatou kei kaapoo te katoa, Pakeha mai; Maori mai; te ao whanui mai.
ReplyDeleteTuria should feel uneasy, people are unhappy with her, and do not want the Maori Party in coalition with Don Brash, who wants to sell off NZ pubic assets. Turia and Sharples are doing dirty gutter smear tactics. Both the Mana and Maori Parties should work together to a degree to advance maori and working peoples interests.
ReplyDeleteNational and Act are anti worker. The Maori Party needs to take a look in the mirror or it may continue to loose a lot more members. What does the Maori Party stand for? What are its goals? Being in power is not a goal, it is something to help achieve a goal.
Te Mana Party, like the Green Party of Aotearoa, want social change, and environmental protection in Aotearoa. The Maori Party needs to sort itself out (so does labour).
I once supported Tariana, but not any more. We hardly see her in Porirua anymore and we are sick and tired of the crap the government is handing out to Maori. This will only get worse with tougher economic times. re: smear tactics, I am getting sick and tired of them to.
ReplyDeleteI personally would like to state that we don't worry about what the Maori party is up to and we concentrate in putting our individual and collective efforts into how and what are we doing to support MANA? In my view, the time is right and it is our chance to STAND UP for ourselves and future generations by supporting MANA, attending hui, registering ourselves and our whanau etc etc
ReplyDeleteKia kaha Hone! Kick arse.
ReplyDeleteI don't want to listen to the slanging match that's happening in the media that's hoha. Life isn't getting any easier for whanau, I don't want to own or run the prisons, I don't want to jepordise whenua/environment for oil and resources, all to increase iwi share holding company assets because the iwi elites haven't helped the people either. Food prices, health, its not any cheaper and there hasn't been any support.. I voted for Maori Party twice, I won't be doing that again.
ReplyDeleteMaori Party had a game plan which was to sit with National. I take my hat off to them for trying. I don't think its been a winning game plan though, there have been some wins but some major losses. Changes to kiwi saver, gst rise, attacks on welfare support are all too much now. Whanau ora won't stop the poverty. Where did our Maori Party go??
ReplyDeleteI like everyone else here wants the slagging off to stop. It is shameful. When kids are dying from abuse and poverty and all you can do is attack each other then you should be ashamed.
ReplyDeleteI agree re: slagging. But it did start with the Maori Party - let's not forget that.
ReplyDelete@ Anon 10:27PM - naaah, the slagging started with Hone staging a coup against Tariana and Pita as badly as the coup Chris Carter tried on Goff. Then the slagging was followed by Hone dissing the Maori Party, while they tried to get hui going to bring him back in the fold. Then Titewhai slags off Tariana and Pita a bit more, and finally the Maori Party respond.
ReplyDeleteBoy, some of you Hone cheerleaders probably reckon Te Whiti sold Maori out at Parihaka cos he didn't lead a suicidal unarmed charge against the Crown soldiers aye? It's what Hone woulda (talked about) doing...
But let's be constructive - if Hone gets back in with a few other MPs, what's he gonna do? He talks big, but his record on working with other MPs he don't agree with to get something good for Maori is...what now? Nothing?
Hone got the enquiry on smokes, but then did nothing with it. Didn't put up a members bill or nothing. He talked big against the MCA bill which scrapped Labour's raupatu (and put in a smaller Nats raupatu), but where were his amendments? His alternative members bill? Oh yeh, he forgot to even front and vote against the MCA law eh.
Wow - you've admitted he was the guy who got the smoking enquiry and they recommend the biggest changes to smoking, everybody knows what hone wanted to see in relation to the MCA (something that every Maori organisation didn't agree with) Re: the Maori flag, this was something he was behind when it was designed back in the 80's. So the "big three" Maori Party hits had much to do with him, than anyone else.
ReplyDeleteThe reason why he couldn't work with Tariana, Pita, Te Ururoa and Rahui was because they sold-out. Or did you forget they said they would work with Brash?
And you wonder why nothing ever changes? How many of you actually understand the system you are all enslaved to? I only know one man that does and it is this guy, hence why you will find more Maori backing him, than any other! http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO1105/S00197/kelvyn-alp-to-contest-te-tai-tokerau-by-election.htm
ReplyDeletetariana turia is too much of an experienced politician and with personal mana to resort to or lower herself to use gutter tactics
ReplyDeleteyou do not support your accusations -
people in glass houses should not throw stones - your accssatio are false -- shame - utter shame --
Man if people only knew the real Tariana...on the money Maui St.
ReplyDeleteHow are ACT anti worker? Thats just an ignorant lefty smear.ACT are actually the most pro-worker party there...they want real wage rises caused by really productivity gains...not bludging handouts and welfare dependency.
ReplyDelete"But the behaviour of Titewhai Harawira during a Taitokerau Maori Party hui ... her blatant breach of Maori protocol as a Maori person, the hate tactics being used to create dissension within the Ngapuhi tribe and division with the subtribes, and the taint of her foul language in our house of ancestors, on a marae which is significant to both Maori and Pakeha, is not acceptable."
ReplyDeletehttp://www.nzherald.co.nz/politics/news/article.cfm?c_id=280&objectid=10726085
Hmm, this article makes your assertions look silly